tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6408863910119014950.post5771793582340388654..comments2023-06-18T02:48:06.045-07:00Comments on The Cunning Linguaphile: The Flaw in Feminism: Conclusion.Word Geekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17475319014128668660noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6408863910119014950.post-2266037525767916472010-06-02T15:48:48.698-07:002010-06-02T15:48:48.698-07:00DA: Just wondering... when feeling desperate over ...DA: Just wondering... when feeling desperate over a woman, was your impulse to scupper the competition in any way you could? What I mean by that is: does the desperation manifest as hatred or willingness to activey undermine/humiliate male rivals, or do your emotions, positive or negative, focus on the object of your affections and/or yourself?<br />My impression, from the media, perhaps, is that it is more expected that a woman will stab her best mate in the back over a bloke than a man will over a woman. That's probably quite unfair.Word Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475319014128668660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6408863910119014950.post-6621912731373368252010-06-02T15:40:15.227-07:002010-06-02T15:40:15.227-07:00Yeah, kinda. More that that's what's EXPEC...Yeah, kinda. More that that's what's EXPECTED, and shown in the media, so a lot of people end up fulfilling it. It's too sweeping a statement to make about the real world, but life hasa habit of imitating art.Word Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475319014128668660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6408863910119014950.post-41153735241067843822010-06-02T12:36:08.760-07:002010-06-02T12:36:08.760-07:00Or do you just mean in the TV world?Or do you just mean in the TV world?Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05139880823701545265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6408863910119014950.post-70785173339999004032010-06-02T12:35:15.325-07:002010-06-02T12:35:15.325-07:00I dunno. I have felt pretty desperate competing ov...I dunno. I have felt pretty desperate competing over women before - because I really liked the woman, not because I was trying to gain 'status'. Maybe I'm weird.Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05139880823701545265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6408863910119014950.post-15718614018724774642010-05-31T23:12:56.561-07:002010-05-31T23:12:56.561-07:00interesting point, RVW. The boys ARE always a bit ...interesting point, RVW. The boys ARE always a bit dopey. But again I think something else is going on. The slightly crap men exist to show us how awesome the Doctor is, and to push the companion into making a choice. EG between stability and adventure. That may seem to contradict my entire argument but I don't think it does. When 2 women compete for a man, the fight gets desperate, dirty, for all the world as if it were a fight for survival. Two guys fighting over a girl can be no less impassioned, but that air of desperation is missing. they are more jockeying for status, with the woman as a trophy to signify the 'better' man. I think. Might have to go further into that later...Word Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17475319014128668660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6408863910119014950.post-23184735564493485072010-05-31T07:12:25.181-07:002010-05-31T07:12:25.181-07:00Hi Sarah, what about the companions' male part...Hi Sarah, what about the companions' male partners though? They have always been weaker and apparently more stupid than the women they are with. This tends to make the female companions seem strong in comparison. <br /><br />RobinRVWhttp://www.zeroquality.net/zqblognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6408863910119014950.post-22451672023939047162010-05-31T00:37:47.750-07:002010-05-31T00:37:47.750-07:00*agrees with both posts*
I occurs with so many de...*agrees with both posts*<br /><br />I occurs with so many degrees too. It's the same odd competitiveness with underlying bitchiness that leads to women who're friends commenting on each others lunch choices (which bugs me no end at work. My colleagues call themselves feminists, so I'd expect them to respect my choice as a woman to eat deep fried crap every now and then, but alas, no.)<br /><br />It doesn't half make communication complicated. And yes...I do think that a big problem within any group of women who, in theory, have the same goal, including feminists, is internalised sexism. As much as internalised homophobia affects queer activists. That's just it, yes we live in a patriarchal society that has it's problems, but it always seems that women are doing a good enough job of oppressing or just plain undermining each other that the 'big bad men' don't need to bother.<br /><br />Equally, what a lot of separatists feminist don't seem to want to acknowledge is that men get as big a dose of messages from society as women do. They have to, it's the same society. The messages are different and arguably more less damaging, but there is no big bad oppressive male entity and wee innocent oppressed female entity, it's all way way way way way way more complicated. <br /><br />And even within TV land with it. How many times when a new female character is introduced does the existing female character take a dislike to her/compete with her/undermine her....or vice versa. And it's not just male writers who think that's how things go.Tittamiirenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6408863910119014950.post-67488989525855497382010-05-30T18:49:52.572-07:002010-05-30T18:49:52.572-07:00I never fell in love with the Dr. Too much hair ;)...I never fell in love with the Dr. Too much hair ;) At least on the original show in the 70s!Riot Kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02725825736285347870noreply@blogger.com